Reset NL2X to factory sounds

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Hi,

I've just aquired a Nord Lead 2X second hand.

The previous owner however did edit many presets but doesn't have a .syx (Sysex) backup of all the factory programs, performances, and percussion kits. Embarassed

1. Can someone help me resetting programs, performances, and percussion kits to factory sounds by sending me a .syx file conaining the backup of all the factory sounds?

2. As I have no clue on how to use .syx
files, what is the process to follow to load these into the Nord Lead 2X as well as the process to follow if I want to backup all or individual sounds from the Nord Lead 2X? Is there any free editor under Windows Vista existing that could suit this need? I have installed on my computer Changeit, Midi-Ox, and NordGen but am not sure if the are compatible with the Nord Lead 2X. Regarding the NordGen, I read that some people happened to have a bug and that files are bigger than required. So, is the NordGen reliable and if I use it, is there a risk to damage the Nord Lead 2X's internal memory?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,
Chris

Wout Blommers · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Reset NL2X to factory sounds

tritonchris

melmac · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject:

Hi Chris,

I am using the program MIDI-OX you mentioned for dumping, saving and restoring complete banks between my PC (Windows XP) and my NL2X - in both directions it works fine.

So I can easily do security copies of the RAM program banks as *.syx-files including the percussion programs.
Somewhere here in the forum you can find the factory programs as sysex-files to reset the factory sounds.

Good luck!

melmac

Wout Blommers · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Many thanks guys! Wink

Would be great indeed if somebody could post the .syx of the other factory banks, percussion kits and performances.

- melmac,
I have downloaded the .syx mentioned by Wout (thnaks Wout).
As I don't know how to use MIDI-OX, how should I get it working?
> which connection to do between PC and NL2X: I have a MIDI USB 2 to MIDI IN/OUT cable. So, IN ot OUT on the NL2X?
> how can I receive full banks or individual patches in MIDI-OX from the NL2X and where should I store these on my computer?
> how can I upload new individual bank patches or full banks from MIDI-OX to the NL2X?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Chris

Wout Blommers · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Thanks Wout,

Sorry to be a pain but I'm quite new in the .syx jungle Smile

Is it correct to do the following:
- if I want to send individual patches to the NL2X, I should connect the MIDI cable to MIDI-IN on the NL2X? Right?
- if I want to receive individual patches from the NL2X, I should connect the MIDI cable to MIDI-OUT on the NL2X? Right?

Any idea in which menu/functions to go in MIDI-OX to get it working?

"All press [Shift+OctaveDown]; single Programs press [Shift+OctaveUp]"
> I suppose it's on the NL2X? Are there other settings to do on the NL2X such as global midi channel... ?

Thanks,
Chris

melmac · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:34 am Post subject:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Thanks Melmac.

I have had a try at it but cannot manage to do anything.

I did the following:

1/ Connecting USB on PC and the MIDI IN cable on the MIDI OUT entry of the NL2X as well as the MIDI OUT cable on the MIDI IN entry of the NL2X.

2/ Starting MIDI-OX: 'REC' and 'SYNC' at the bottom right in the status bar of MIDI-OX appear in blue.

3/ Going to menu "View > Sysex" which opens a new window. The problem is in this window:
- Receiving sysex: nothing appears to show in this window when I dump from the NL2X (using "shift > Dump all") whereas in the "MIDI-OX monitor", it looks like data are transferred. But when the dump is finished, the window is still empty and when I go to "File > Save as", I cannot use it as it is still light-grey.
- Sending sysex: first, I selected a program from a bank on the NL2X. When I send sysex to the NL2X via MIDI-OX using "File > Send sysex" and selecting a .syx file to transfer, MIDI-OX appears to send something whereas in the "MIDI-OX monitor", it looks like data are transferred because it shows a blue evolution line. But when the sending is finished, the window is still empty and when I try the sound on the NL2X without changing the program number, the sound didn't change.

I should have missed something? Embarassed

Any idea?

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Wout Blommers · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject:

melmac · Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:04 am Post subject:

Hi Chris,

sorry, but I have forgotten one thing to receive a SysEx dump:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Thanks Melmac.

- Receving and saving dump all from the NL2X is now working in MIDI-OX. Wink

- Howerver, Sending .syx still doesn't work: appears to be transmitting data to the NL2X but nothing changed on the NL2X. Should I set the NL2X in some kind of receive mode? Id so, how to do it? What is the correct process of sending .syx? Embarassed

- I also saw performances in .mid format. How tho send these to the NL2X (via MIDI-OX)?

Thanks again.

Regards,
Chris

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:39 am Post subject:

You are now working with 'Dump All', so complete banks.
In practise this will only be used (down and uploading) when saving the complete bank as an archive. Mostly one works with single Programs...

Work with these first, because uploading into the synth isn't destructive to the memory! Stay in Program mode and send a single file. Only the LED's should change, not the LCD screen.

Maybe this can help you to get an overlook?
http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/020_NordLead2/Red_Lady/Index_bestanden/Red_Lady/Prgm_Lay_Perf_01.htm

Wout

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Thanks Wout,

I'm actually trying to send a .syx containing only one program but can't manage to. Here is a description on the way I proceed. Please help me to undrestand what's wrong:

1. Connecting MIDI OUT cable to MIDI IN of the NL2X and MIDI IN cable to MIDI OUT of the NL2X
2. Switching on NL2X and selecting the bank program where I want to store
3. connecting USB side of the MIDI cable to the computer
4. Opening MIDI-OX and setting the midi input and output to "USB midi" via the menu "options > MIDI settings" and making sure that "Options > Pass Sysex" is checked
5. In MIDI-OX, going to menu "View > Sysex" and in the window that opens, opening the desired .syx file that I want to transfer to the NL2X (corresponding to the bank program selected on the NL2X at step 2 / ex.: "0002VelocityStrings.syx" for bank program "1.2" of the NL2X) via the menu "File > Send Sysex file...". Then, a blue progress bar appears briefly in MIDI-OX and that's it.
6. When I go back to the NL2X keyboard (still with the program bank selected / ex.: bank program "1.2") and play a key, the sound appears not to have been updated.

Is there another parameter to activate on the NL2X.

Thanks and sorry but I'm novice in .syx

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:22 am Post subject:

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:29 am Post subject:

Just for your interest, the uploaded Program doesn't go directly to the memory, but first to the Buffer. You have to save it by hand!

Wout

Hmm...
I thought I had written about Global Midi in the archive already, but I can't find it.
To tired after my holidays, I guess...
Time to get to work, where I can have some rest Very Happy

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Hi Wout,

Thanks.

Global MIDI channel on the NL2X is set to 16.
How can I save in NL2X memory a program sent to the buffer?

Have some rest. Wink

Regards,
Chris

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:10 am Post subject:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Hi Wout,

Sending still doesn't work.

I did the process like described in my previous forum post and did the following:

... (see previous forum post) ...
5. In MIDI-OX, going to menu "View > Sysex" and in the window that opens, opening the desired .syx file that I want to transfer to the NL2X (corresponding to the bank program selected on the NL2X at step 2 / ex.: "0002VelocityStrings.syx" for bank program "1.2" of the NL2X) via the menu "File > Send Sysex file...". Then, a blue progress bar appears briefly in MIDI-OX and that's it.

6. Pressing the [Store] button on the NL2X, selecting a bank program and pressing on the [Store] button again. But I still can't get the sound that I did transfer via MIDI-OX (.syx file with one sound) and Global MIDI channel is set to 16. The patch didn't change at all.

Should I activate something else on the NL2X?

Note: found all the .syx program banks at http://nm-archives.electro-music.com/020_NordLead2/021_Patches/ except 'Program Bank 0' (clearly for techno, ...) Any idea where I can get it?

Regards,
Chris

Regards,
Chris

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject:

varice · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:30 am Post subject:

Are you sure that the MIDI input works on the NL2X?

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject:

tritonchris · Joined: May 03, 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Belgium

Thank you guys for all your tips.

Have not tried yet as I'm falling short of time.
Will try for sure when I have some time.

Regards,
Chris