NL3 defaults to program 1 on startup

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

I have an NL3 that defaults to program 1 on startup
irrespective of the last program I had selected before shut down.

I would have expected it to go back to the program
I had selected before turning it off.

Is it normal for it to default to 1?

Wout Blommers · Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject:

It is very handy, special to the performing artist, when the synth boots up in the first settings you want to use, isn't it? The NL3, being a performance synth in the first place, has the ability to start in any setting the player wants, if this setting was being saved in the synth by using the menu 'System Settings'. When saved the NL3 will boot in that particular setting until it is saved otherwise.
[Manual Page 128 - at the bottom]

Wout

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:36 am Post subject:

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

corazon · Joined: Jul 22, 2008 Posts: 8 Location: London

Mine starts at program 1.1 every time - I can't find any way to change this (had a good scour through the manual). Bit annoying/unexpected but at least the navigator is fast.

Tuba Four · Joined: Jun 05, 2008 Posts: 9 Location: Southern California

Same here. My Nl3 will start with the first four programs in the four slots respectively. I could not find a way to make it boot up any other way. It's unfortunate because it makes me have to rearrange all my favorite patches to the first bank or thereabouts and sort of keeps me from rummaging through the other banks.

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Wout Blommers · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:37 am Post subject:

Indeed!

I was mistaken with the NordModular Classic, which has the ability to save the Synth Settings and also the Patch load when booting. So no [Shift+Store] here...

I think Clavia abandoned this feature when designing the Sound Manager, in which uploading Patches is rather easy: just 'drag & drop' the Patches into a Bank and upload into the synth. For this reason I always used an almost empty first Bank... Just threw the Patches in I need in a song and save the Bank for later use on the computer.

The Sound Manager only works in Windows...

So the NL[2(X)] reminds its last Patch, the NM Classic boots in a freely to configure setting and the NL3 always boots in the first four memory locations. The question arises why didn't Clavia uses an uniform concept to all their synths? I think it's because different development teams were working on the instruments. When the NL3 was released the designers of the NL2 had already left the company.

At one hand it's confusing to users of more then one synth, at the other hand being to much bound to an earlier concept could obstruct progression: "No, you can't do that, because we always did it that way..."

Wout

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:21 am Post subject:

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

Wout Blommers · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Subject description: Plasmid!

I'm terrible sorry...

Insteads of quoting you, I added your post...
It was the wrong button I hit...

I apologise deeply!!! Crying or Very sad

Wout

plasmid · Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: ro

fac · Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:51 am Post subject:

I know exactly what you mean. I have a G2 and I love that it remembers the last patch or performance played. I usually work in performance mode, building a full jam little by little, which may take several days. When I'm done for the day, I can just save the performance and turn it off. The next day I just turn it on and start from where I left. No need to browse through various performances or patches, like I used to do with my micromodular.

I just bought an NL3 and it doesn't have this "feature".... it always starts with the first patch, so if you're working in patch 3:99, you have to take your time to browse to it. I guess that if you use a sequencer, you can simply send a bank/program change, but sometimes I just like to spend the afternoon making new sounds in a batch. It's not a big deal, either. Some of my synths remember the last patch used (Waldorf XT, ESQ-1) and others don't (Korg synths). It's just that the NL3 can save a ton of patches and there isn't a quick way to access an arbitrary one. For example, the Korg MS2000 has 128 patches organized in 8 banks of 16 patches, so you don't need more than 5 button presses to access any patch. The NL3 has the data dial, but I don't like to use it too much because it's a bit worn out and jumpy.

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Bernd · Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Austria

Hi

I'm new in this forum so hello to all

I read all your posts on this subjects but could not find a technical solution. ? Is there any, I would be thankful if somebody can send me a workaround, since I'm tired to load my systems settings daily. To load it from the Sound manager is also not possible since I use MAC, and since a few years, the synth manufacturer don't support MAC (See also Yamaha with Motif Classic). On Page 123 of the user manual you can find in bold letters to store your systems settings to get them on power on.

In adittion on changes to the program slots I also changes the pitch bend ranged and the speed and modulation depth. The I stored this in accordance to the manual, see page 128. The display messages is "done". (Memory protect is off !
The funny thing is: It was working a few months ago, but after that I used the Sound manager to reload some factory presets and since that, I thought I damaged something in the NL3
I even thought, the buffer battery of this RAM is weak, so I opened the synth to check it. No battery !

So If anyone has an Idea I would be thankful

Bernd

dorremifasol · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject:

If the machine doesn't use a battery to feed an internal RAM with the user data, then it must use FLASH RAM. This is not known to last forever, so maybe the FLASH RAM of your synth is not working properly by now?

Bernd · Joined: Jan 02, 2009 Posts: 2 Location: Austria

Hi

Thanks for your message:

To exchange the Flash ROM is a cruicial thing in the NL3 and will probably lead to a sudden death of this outstanding instrument.
I still think it is a software bug and not a hardware problem, because, the sound banks as well as user banks use the same type of memory. And this part is working quite well. I still suppose, there is somethings wrong with the sound manager, since the problem occured, when I used it first time.

sincerely

Bernd