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Per

Joined: Jun 09, 2004 Posts: 165 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject:
Best/worst modules Subject description: What is your favourite and bad buy? |
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There are now and then "what shoud I buy" questions on this forum. But once when you have it, then the truth is there. Here is my worst buy/best buy list:
Best buy:
1. Doepfer A-149 Source of Uncertainty (great module, musically useful CVs)
2.MFB DSC-01 (three DCOs in one cheap package)
3. Cwejman RM-25 (great ring modulator, can do DC, great sine VCO)
4. Doepfer A-138c Polarized Mixer (a good CV processor at low price)
5. Zerooscillator (expensive, but a great sound and a wonderful module)
Worst buy:
1. Doepfer A-115 Audio divider (never use it. And it can not take DC, meaning clock pulses either).
2. Analogue Systems RS-210 Fixed Filterbank (OK, they had a similar in the old Moog system. But it is boring.)
3. Metalbox Wave Multiplier (Ok for processing sine/triangle waves, but too subtile for me).
3. Cwejman VM-1 voice module (Ok, is sounds good, but how fun is it with a hardwired mono synth module in a modular?)
4. Doepfer A-167 Analog Comparator (I understand what it does, but find no good use for it.)
5. Analogue Systems RS-50 Shaper/Trig/DC Shifter (How often do you really need to make a trig signal out of a gate?)
Many of the worst modules is 2nd hand, and afterwards, I understand why they sold them. Now they live in my modular, as I find it hard to sell parts and diminish the metal machine.
So, what is your best/worst list?
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dugernaut

Joined: Jul 24, 2009 Posts: 50 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:56 am Post subject:
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Nice questions. Sorry its so late in responding.
OK - So I'm the first responder. I don't have first hand experience with anu of the modules you mention, but I konw analog synth well enough to understand the applications and outputs of them.
Agreed:
A Fixed Filter Bank is really nothing more than a display of knobs. Much more can be accomplished with two or three parametric filters in usually less space.
RIP - MFB DSC-01. Too bad. Would have liked to hear one.
Almost any sort of randomness, such as Source of Uncertainty, is valuable in creating subtile - dare I say 'organic' - changes in texture. I love expression in the dynamics of an individual sound - too often lost these days.
TOSSUP:
Cwejman VM-1 voice module - Yeah, OK its a one Osc voice module. Not a big deal. What's important is that its a voice. Read that again and smile. Yeah, it should have had at least two oscillators, but the Eurorack formfactor and 1/8" jacks notwithstanding, this is the basis of a, duh, VOICE! You can get specialized voice modules, ie, drums, but this is a synth voice with synth voice flexibility.
DISAGREE:
MetalBox/Ken Stone Wave Multiplier - AWESOME! Nuff said! I don't understand your views and reviews here. Please elaborate.
Analog Comparators - Really specialized, but when you need them, there's nothing else that will do the job. Same holds true for other digital/analog logic functions such as AND/OR/XOR/NOT, etc. You need them sometimes.
I can't comment on the rest of those modules, but hopefully someone else can chime in. |
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Rykhaard

Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 1290 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:17 am Post subject:
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| dugernaut wrote: | Nice questions. Sorry its so late in responding.
DISAGREE:
MetalBox/Ken Stone Wave Multiplier - AWESOME! Nuff said! I don't understand your views and reviews here. Please elaborate.
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If this is referring to Ken's full blown one with 3 separate sections, I completely disagree as well! The timbral / harmonic change capabilities of this thing, are mind bending, when fed Sine / Triangle waveforms! I've recently been extremely happy with Thomas Henry's 1V/octave transistor triangle VCO (2 built - many more coming.) That, in combination with Ken's Wave Multiplier is an absolute power combination!
Likes:
Ken Stone's VCA. Whether you build it with a high quality matched tranny DIP or hand matched trannies, this VCA is phenomenal for it's price! I have 6 of them, with 4 of them currently built - 3 of them with hand matched trannies.
State Variable Filter from Electronotes. 2 of them built. Wonderful sounding 2 pole SVF's!
Thomas Henry's 1V/octave tranny triangle VCOs. (Work wonderfully as VCLFOs as well. 6 more of the latter done as PCBs. 2 of them, almost finished. 2 VCOs finished and functioning beautifully over 5 octaves.)
Ken Stone's VCO. I only built 1 of them, fully. I wasn't crazy about the extra functions. Outside of that, as a basic 1V/octave VCO - phenominal! (1 full version completed; 1 VCO only completed. 4 or 5 more to complete.)
Ray Wilson's ADSR. Phenomenal. 2 built.
Dislikes:
Ken Stone's Bi-filter VCO (his version of the old Electronotes one). There were too many things that were unpredictable occurring in the the device. After I'd completed the 1st of the 2 that I had bought, not being overly happy with it - I added two KStone VCAs, for controlling a portion of it with CVs. That was a nice addition to it but still - the unpredictableness in a couple of functions (now forgotten what) forced me to scrap the entire thing, converting both of them to straight VCOs.
So-so:
Thomas Henry's MPS. I'd built the first one and wasn't as impressed with it's capabilities as I had been initially. Sold my 2nd one, unbuilt. Keeping the first one mainly, for bass drum duties.
Too much other stuff in my backlog, to yet comment on. (Most of the remaining stuff in my modular and noise machine are self-designed.) |
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kkissinger
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Joined: Mar 28, 2006 Posts: 1497 Location: Kansas City, Mo USA
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:16 am Post subject:
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I like the Thomas Henry MPS -- though I swapped a few resistor values to get more "punch" out of it. Without an MPS, I'd have to tie up a lot of discreet modules -- nearly 1/3 of my synthesizer -- to do simple beat sounds. As an efficient and effective way to make percussion sounds the MPS is great. To get the maximum benefit from multiple MPSs, one would need gate sequencers and/or clock dividers.
I can't say enough good things about the Klee Sequencer -- really a nice addition.
Another great workhorse module is the Paia MIDI-to-CV converter. It was an easy build and works precisely.
The only module I own that isn't that great is the Aries Output and Power module. The output amplifiers are so noisy that I never use them -- thus its only useful function is an on-off power switch. My plan is to keep the panel but build new, clean, output amps with balanced outputs. _________________ -- Kevin
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Danno Gee Ray

Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject:
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Kevin,
Could you share the details of the MPS reisistor mods you made?
Thanks,
Dan |
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kkissinger
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Joined: Mar 28, 2006 Posts: 1497 Location: Kansas City, Mo USA
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject:
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| Danno Gee Ray wrote: | Kevin,
Could you share the details of the MPS reisistor mods you made?
Thanks,
Dan |
I changed R77 from a 100K resistor to a 410K (you can experiment with the values, of course). This adds some gain to the output mixer stage.
Hope this helps! _________________ -- Kevin
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Danno Gee Ray

Joined: Sep 25, 2005 Posts: 1351 Location: Telford, PA USA
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject:
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| Thank you. |
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amsonx

Joined: Jan 20, 2009 Posts: 7 Location: santiago de compostela spain
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:44 am Post subject:
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| i'm new to the modular world so at this time i dont speak about bad buy but for the a-149 1 and his companion a-149 2 i can tell . wonderful. |
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davep

Joined: Jul 05, 2004 Posts: 467 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:00 pm Post subject:
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I had a MOTM Triple Resonant Filter for a while and it seemed like a great module on paper, but I found that it really wasn't very versatile. A bit of a one-trick-pony. I tried some tricks to coax a wider variety of timbres out of it, like patching in some feedback loops in an attempt to increase the resonance (which is FIXED - no variable control for this!) but all I got was uncontrolled high pitched squeaks. Pretty limited modulation capabilities too, unless you want to hack at it to do some mods.
So I replaced it with Rob Hordijk's Dual Phaser module.
Best. Phaser. Ever. _________________ Dave Peck |
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